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Restarting a discussion back on my talk page:
And another reset button on this. I get in the mood to fix this about once a year, but if I ever was able to finish it out, it'd not be something we'd need to update much.


This category needs to be refined into something more useful. An alphabetical list is no help when you (or more often, ME) are trying to find a specific move based on how it looks. I think people know what the move looks like and want to know the name as much as knowing the name and wanting to see how it looks like. The downside is this would require a lot of duplication - every time a move is added, the page with pictures of the moves has to be as well.
The very core idea is we need a page that's a gallery of lucha submissions, to better be able to visually identify them without having to flip thru individual pages. We'd like to have the gallery automatically updated, so no one has to remember to sync that gallery every time a move is added.


It'd be also helpful to break down the big list into subcategories for the same reason - if you know it's a dive, browsing thru a list of only dives is a lot easier. This is what I had previously:
If we're going to do it for lucha submissions, we might as well do it for all move types. I've got the second half partially worked out<ref>if someone has a ready made solution done already, I'd use that sure, but I haven't found any easy to use wiki bot stuff</ref> - I can harvest the images/names from the pages, they just need those categories added in.


* [[:Category:Basic Moves]] - your no-frills dropkicks, armdrags, hiptoss, splash, senton, and the very basic variations of dives (plancha, pescado, tope). These should be moves which aren't even necessarily includes on profiles, because they're common. 
Categories we're using
* [[:Category:Cradles]] - any type of roll up
* Counters
* [[:Category:Submissions]] - obviously
* Cradles
** [[:Category:Lucha Submissions]] - submissions rarely seen outside of lucha libre. It's Wacky Lucha Submissions without typing Wacky.
* Dives
* [[:Category:Flying Moves]] - not sure if that's the best way to say it, but anything jumping/springboard off the ropes
* Flying Moves
** [[:Category:Dives]] - Flying moves to the floor
* Illegal Moves
*** maybe even sub categories for Plancha/Tope?
* Piledrivers
* [[:Category:Strikes]] - ?
* Power Moves
* Maybe [[:Category:Grapple Moves]] for everything else?
* Strikes
* Submissions
* Tag Team Moves


This can be done as easily as going thru the moves, from start to finish, sticking them in a category, and pasting the picture and a link on a master page. (The master page naming is iffy - maybe something as simple as [[Basic Moves]] for that category, and so on?)
We could use a category in between Power Moves and Flying Moves - where does a DDT or a Stunner fit? - but I'm struggling to come up with the proper name. Snap Moves? Grapple Moves? DDTs?


The moves pages themselves could use a lot more data. In an ideal world, each page would have
Besides that, the only thing that must be done, and '''something anyone can do if they're got some time, is adding these categories to every move page''' (where they make sense, of course). If that's done, I can get the galleries up and that's done.
* how the move is applied
* who invented the move (or whatever history is behind the move)
* people closely identified to the move
* links to similar moves


but that may not be applicable to every move.
There optional bits I've been working on as I go on, and you're welcome to also try (or skip)
# Adding descriptions of the moves and who's known for using them for each page
# Aligning the picture (or pictures) to a side of the page, so the text is beside the picture and not forced below.
# Shrinking the picture, when it's way too large
# Combining slight variations of moves into singles pages. If it's the same move only done in a different spot, it really only needs one page. It can be a subsection of the same page.  
# Fixing some names (dropping US names where they're not actually used, using Title Case where possible)
# Removing moves with no lucha connection


Is there a better way to do this? Is there something I'm missing?
Any help on this is great. I'll continue making slow and sporadic progress! --[[User:Thecubsfan|Thecubsfan]] 01:04, 8 May 2010 (UTC)
--[[User:Nkhan|thecubsfan]] 20:29, 22 August 2008 (UTC)

Latest revision as of 19:04, 7 May 2010

And another reset button on this. I get in the mood to fix this about once a year, but if I ever was able to finish it out, it'd not be something we'd need to update much.

The very core idea is we need a page that's a gallery of lucha submissions, to better be able to visually identify them without having to flip thru individual pages. We'd like to have the gallery automatically updated, so no one has to remember to sync that gallery every time a move is added.

If we're going to do it for lucha submissions, we might as well do it for all move types. I've got the second half partially worked out[1] - I can harvest the images/names from the pages, they just need those categories added in.

Categories we're using

  • Counters
  • Cradles
  • Dives
  • Flying Moves
  • Illegal Moves
  • Piledrivers
  • Power Moves
  • Strikes
  • Submissions
  • Tag Team Moves

We could use a category in between Power Moves and Flying Moves - where does a DDT or a Stunner fit? - but I'm struggling to come up with the proper name. Snap Moves? Grapple Moves? DDTs?

Besides that, the only thing that must be done, and something anyone can do if they're got some time, is adding these categories to every move page (where they make sense, of course). If that's done, I can get the galleries up and that's done.

There optional bits I've been working on as I go on, and you're welcome to also try (or skip)

  1. Adding descriptions of the moves and who's known for using them for each page
  2. Aligning the picture (or pictures) to a side of the page, so the text is beside the picture and not forced below.
  3. Shrinking the picture, when it's way too large
  4. Combining slight variations of moves into singles pages. If it's the same move only done in a different spot, it really only needs one page. It can be a subsection of the same page.
  5. Fixing some names (dropping US names where they're not actually used, using Title Case where possible)
  6. Removing moves with no lucha connection

Any help on this is great. I'll continue making slow and sporadic progress! --Thecubsfan 01:04, 8 May 2010 (UTC)

  1. ↑ if someone has a ready made solution done already, I'd use that sure, but I haven't found any easy to use wiki bot stuff
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