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|nicknames= El Nieto de/del El Santo, Nieto de la Leyenda, Tercera Generación del Santo
|nicknames= El Nieto de/del El Santo, Nieto de la Leyenda, Tercera Generación del Santo
|nameHistory=Goldman (1993), Sagrado (1998), Rocker I (IWRG, 1998/1999), El Plateado (2004 - El Hijo del Santo sued), El Nieto de Santo (2004 - El Hijo del Santo sued), Axel El Nieto de El Santo (1998 - 2013), Axel (2013 - )
|nameHistory=Goldman (1993), Sagrado (1998), Rocker I (IWRG, 1998/1999), El Plateado (2004 - El Hijo del Santo sued), El Nieto de Santo (2004 - El Hijo del Santo sued), Axel El Nieto de El Santo (1998 - 2013), Axel (2013 - )
|family=[[Santo]] (grandfather), [[Huracan Ramirez]] (father in law), [[Jimmy Guzman|Jimmy]], [[Chuy Guzman|Chuy]] and [[Black Guzmán]] (grand uncles), [[Rocker II]] (brother), [[Matematico]] and [[Audaz]] (cousins-in-law), [[El Hijo del Santo]] (uncle); see [[The Family of El Santo]]  
|family=[[Santo]] (grandfather), [[Huracan Ramirez]] (father in law), [[Jimmy Guzman|Jimmy]], [[Chuy Guzman|Chuy]] and [[Black Guzmán]] (grand uncles), [[Rocker II]] (brother), [[Matemático]] and [[Huracán Jr.|Audaz]] (cousins-in-law), [[El Hijo del Santo]] (uncle); see [[The Family of El Santo]]  
|maestro=[[Shadito Cruz]], [[Karloff Lagarde]], [[Rodolfo Ruíz]], [[Brazo Cibernetico]], [[Huracan Ramirez]], [[Satanico]], [[Búfalo Negro Jr.]], [[Tony Salazar]]
|maestro=[[Shadito Cruz]], [[Karloff Lagarde]], [[Rodolfo Ruíz]], [[Brazo Cibernetico]], [[Huracan Ramirez]], [[Satanico]], [[Búfalo Negro Jr.]], [[Tony Salazar]]
|birthdate=[[October 28]], [[1971]]
|birthdate=[[October 28]], [[1971]]
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Axel is the first of 25 grandsons of Santo, but his attempts to name himself as such (El Nieto de Santo) has caused a split in the Santo family. [[El Hijo del Santo]] claims to hold all related Santo trademarks, as he was the only one of Santo's sons who wrestled.  
Axel is the first of 25 grandsons of Santo, but his attempts to name himself as such (El Nieto de Santo) has caused a split in the Santo family. [[El Hijo del Santo]] claims to hold all related Santo trademarks, as he was the only one of Santo's sons who wrestled.  


With control of the Santo of name, [[El Hijo del Santo]] sued Axel to stop using the Nieto name - Hijo obviously wants to save the name for at least one of his sons (and has since introduced him, though he's still years away from wrestling), but has also claimed that Axel isn't great enough to carry on the high standards of the Santo name. Axel disagrees, and there are members of the Santo family that agree with him (and disagree with [[Hijo del Santo]]'s handling of the names), but [[Hijo del Santo]]'s right to control the Santo name and trademarks has held up to this point.
With control of the Santo of name, [[El Hijo del Santo]] sued Axel to stop using the Nieto name - Hijo obviously wants to save the name for at least one of his sons ([[Santo Jr.]], who never had his heart in the business and only ever appeared on his father's shows), but has also claimed that Axel isn't great enough to carry on the high standards of the Santo name. Axel disagrees, and there are members of the Santo family that agree with him (and disagree with [[Hijo del Santo]]'s handling of the names), but [[Hijo del Santo]]'s right to control the Santo name and trademarks has held up to this point.


Axel still tries to make that connection to Santo as clear as legally possible, wearing a similar mask and being promoted as the grandson of Santo, at times using Santo's birth name instead of the trademarked identity. He's still marketed as Nieto de Santo, even if he can't use the name.
Axel still tries to make that connection to Santo as clear as legally possible, wearing a similar mask and being promoted as the grandson of Santo, at times using Santo's birth name instead of the trademarked identity. He's still marketed as Nieto de Santo, even if he can't use the name.
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Axel was very close to his father-in-law, [[Huracan Ramirez]], before his death. They had a shared history of legal entanglements about what names they could use.
Axel was very close to his father-in-law, [[Huracan Ramirez]], before his death. They had a shared history of legal entanglements about what names they could use.


[[Hijo del Santo]]'s standing in the industry has kept Axel out of major companies. It was likely no coincidence Axel was rumored to come into CMLL soon after [[Hijo del Santo]] split. He eventually did make his [[CMLL]] return on [[April 4]], [[2008]]. Axel continued to book himself as an independent while working with CMLL, which CMLL appears to frown on. After Axel worked a [[Guadalajara]] lucha libre festival in November which was running against the weekly Guadalajara show there, CMLL stopped using Axel (though they never told him why, or even that they were no longer using him.)  
[[Hijo del Santo]]'s standing in the industry has kept Axel out of major companies. It was likely no coincidence Axel was rumored to come into CMLL soon after [[Hijo del Santo]] split. He eventually did make his [[CMLL]] return on [[April 4]], [[2008]]. Axel continued to book himself as an independent while working with CMLL, which CMLL appears to frown on. After Axel worked a [[Guadalajara]] lucha libre festival in November which was running against the weekly Guadalajara show there, CMLL stopped using Axel (though they never told him why, or even that they were no longer using him.)


== Luchas de apuestas record ==
== Luchas de apuestas record ==

Latest revision as of 09:14, 23 October 2024

Profile

Axel
Axel
Name Axel
Real name
Nicknames El Nieto de/del El Santo, Nieto de la Leyenda, Tercera Generación del Santo
Name history Goldman (1993), Sagrado (1998), Rocker I (IWRG, 1998/1999), El Plateado (2004 - El Hijo del Santo sued), El Nieto de Santo (2004 - El Hijo del Santo sued), Axel El Nieto de El Santo (1998 - 2013), Axel (2013 - )
Family Santo (grandfather), Huracan Ramirez (father in law), Jimmy, Chuy and Black Guzmán (grand uncles), Rocker II (brother), Matemático and Audaz (cousins-in-law), El Hijo del Santo (uncle); see The Family of El Santo
Maestro(s) Shadito Cruz, Karloff Lagarde, Rodolfo Ruíz, Brazo Cibernetico, Huracan Ramirez, Satanico, Búfalo Negro Jr., Tony Salazar
Birth date, location October 28, 1971
Obituary date
Debut, location August 24, 2003 - Huamantla Tlaxcala as El Plateado

July 25, 2004 - Durango City as El Nieto de El Santo

April 4, 2008 at Arena Mexico
Lost mask to
Height 5 '9"/ 178 cms
Weight 189 lbs / 86 kg
Signature moves La de Plata, Boomerang, Plancha with Tornillo, Tijera fuera del ring
Titles: Third Force Olympic Wrestling National Champion at 15, FILL Middleweight Championship

Notes

Axel is the first of 25 grandsons of Santo, but his attempts to name himself as such (El Nieto de Santo) has caused a split in the Santo family. El Hijo del Santo claims to hold all related Santo trademarks, as he was the only one of Santo's sons who wrestled.

With control of the Santo of name, El Hijo del Santo sued Axel to stop using the Nieto name - Hijo obviously wants to save the name for at least one of his sons (Santo Jr., who never had his heart in the business and only ever appeared on his father's shows), but has also claimed that Axel isn't great enough to carry on the high standards of the Santo name. Axel disagrees, and there are members of the Santo family that agree with him (and disagree with Hijo del Santo's handling of the names), but Hijo del Santo's right to control the Santo name and trademarks has held up to this point.

Axel still tries to make that connection to Santo as clear as legally possible, wearing a similar mask and being promoted as the grandson of Santo, at times using Santo's birth name instead of the trademarked identity. He's still marketed as Nieto de Santo, even if he can't use the name.

Axel was very close to his father-in-law, Huracan Ramirez, before his death. They had a shared history of legal entanglements about what names they could use.

Hijo del Santo's standing in the industry has kept Axel out of major companies. It was likely no coincidence Axel was rumored to come into CMLL soon after Hijo del Santo split. He eventually did make his CMLL return on April 4, 2008. Axel continued to book himself as an independent while working with CMLL, which CMLL appears to frown on. After Axel worked a Guadalajara lucha libre festival in November which was running against the weekly Guadalajara show there, CMLL stopped using Axel (though they never told him why, or even that they were no longer using him.)

Luchas de apuestas record

Date Apuesta Winner(s) Loser(s) Arena and/or Place
2004/11/07 mask Axel Black Shadow III Arena Coliseo - Monterrey, Nuevo León
2005/11/25 hairs Axel Aristoteles Plaza de Toros Altamirano - Altamirano City, Guerrero
2007/10/26 mask Axel Peligro Aud. Américo Villarreal Guerra - Cd. Madero, Tamaulipas
2009/12/12 hair/masks (1) Super Muñeco & Axel Coco Rojo, Coco Verde & Cocolores Plaza Liberacion - Guadalajara, Jalisco
2009/12/17 mask Axel Rabioso Arena Coliseo - Zitacuaro, Michoacan
2016/06/18 hair[1] Axel Arturo Gaona Jr. Celaya, Guanajuato
17/03/19 hair (1) Axel Black Silver Jr. Candela Discotheque - Acapulco, Guerrero
(1) Suicidas: Super Nova & Bobby Lee Jr., Fantasma de la Opera & Oro II

Gallery

As Goldman
As Goldman
As Goldman
As Rockero I in 1998
With Black Shadow III's mask
Axxel with Lyn May


2006
With Mistico
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signing autographs
as Goldman


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FMLL 2009
Axel, Nieto de El Santo
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